4/27/2006

E.C.Q. — Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Ottawa Senators (game 4) open thread

By John @ 4:09 pm
Filed under: Game Threads, Playoffs

Sens lead the series 2-1. Lightning’s backs are to the wall.. Which team shows up tonight? The Stanley Cup Champs or the 2005-06 “Close but not quite” Lightning?

And how infractions (from members of both teams folks, I’m not a raging homer) does the officiating crew chose not to call tonight?

The floor is yours.

As always — keep it civil.

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166 Responses to “E.C.Q. — Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Ottawa Senators (game 4) open thread”

  1. John F. Says:

    Anyone home? It’s go time.

    I’m a wreck

  2. Gary Says:

    I got out of going shopping w/ my fiancee tonight due solely to the fact that the Bolts are on TV. She really *does* love me.

    The guys have got to play smart tonight and not take stupid penalties. Hope they can pull it out.

  3. John F. Says:

    Don’t even mention penalties. Please… *sighing in disgust*

    Everywhere else around the league they’re pissed off at the number of calls happening. I will GLADLY trade away this crew of jackasses for that one.

    Will the defense work this time around or will the Sens be given free reign in the zone again?

  4. Hinch Says:

    Into the breach once more…

  5. John F. Says:

    Heya Hinchy.


    Make sure if you enjoy your Boltsmag experience you give that POS Google Ad at right a clicky or two during the game tonight!

    Maybe I did that too late on Tuesday and it jinxed us? WHo knows…

  6. Hinch Says:

    Speakin’ of which, my attempt to suscribe to The Hockey News evidently didn’t work. I don’t think their on-line ordering form is Firefox comliant. Oh well.

  7. Hinch Says:

    Whew! A pretty good start…

  8. Gary Says:

    That was a bad pass by Richards but now we get a powerplay.

  9. Hinch Says:

    PP Lightning. Man, I’m happy so far. I just want Grahme to stop his first shot on goal.

  10. John F. Says:

    Nice chance

  11. Gary Says:

    Our guys just can’t seem to get it over the blue line on the PP… or once over, keep it there for any length of time. Lecavalier just stuffed that one (shaking head).

    There’s your first big save from Grahame, Hinch.

  12. Hinch Says:

    Heh. Good stop, JG.

  13. John F. Says:

    They’ve been steady though. That’s a plus

  14. John F. Says:

    Spoke too soon.

  15. Hinch Says:

    I should have said something about stopping the *third* shot.

  16. Gary Says:

    Ouch. Danny boy muffed that shot from the point… and that led to the Spezza goal. DAMNIT. Affy got schooled on that one.

  17. John F. Says:

    That’s not Danny’s first goal he’s given up by playing back

  18. Gary Says:

    The Sens are all over our guys in the neutral zone. Closest thing to the trap you can get w/out drawing… y’know… (sorry John).

  19. John F. Says:

    ?

  20. John F. Says:

    God, I hate this commercial (the kid with the change, McDonalds) more than I hate the current Bill Currie Ford TV ads that are playing lately on Sun Sports.

  21. Gary Says:

    “Closest thing to the trap you can get w/out drawing an interference penalty” is what it was going to say. That’s why I did the preemptive apology.

  22. Gary Says:

    This morning at about 10:30am, on the front page of CNN.com, there was a link that read “Lightning kills man in Florida”. I immediately thought, “Must have been Chris Neil”.

  23. Gary Says:

    PAUL RANGER FROM THE TOP OF THE CIRCLE!

  24. Hinch Says:

    SOOORE! Ranger!

  25. Gary Says:

    Third goal of the series for the rookie?

  26. Hinch Says:

    Gary…:D :D

  27. John F. Says:

    If it’s called back, it doesn’t shock me. It looked like interference when it happened.

  28. Hinch Says:

    I think it came off Emery’s pad, not Marty’s skate anyway. Goal is good.

  29. Gary Says:

    Gave it to Party Marty, although the credit goes to Richards and Ranger. Erin’s back… gotta’ go check out the loot she scored at the store.

  30. John F. Says:

    You remember that goal Dingman supposedly scored late in the season Gary? The one he pushed in while he made contact with Kari L. (this was vs. Atlanta)?

    This one reminded me sort of like that but it was different.

  31. Hinch Says:

    Grahame was so excited to glove that shot he fell on his face. C’mon, John…act like you did it on purpose.

  32. John F. Says:

    Sometimes i hate my TV –

    I am hearing impaired and I got captions on. I can’tturn them off because I’ve lost my TV remote. The captions are interfering with the action at the bottom of the screen.

  33. Gary Says:

    Sorry to say I don’t remember it. I probably didn’t see it on TV cuz I would definitely remember that Cibak line doing *anything* related to scoring. ;)

  34. Hinch Says:

    Dare I say it? A very good penalty call.

  35. John F. Says:

    What the hell was the laughing about before Richards skated off? Did that guy think Brad was going to be called?

    Ottawa will be pissed at this one…

  36. Gary Says:

    Powerplay.

    Sorry, John… I don’t type fast enough to transcribe the game for you. :) Plus, I’m stuck with OLN dickheads, so you’d probably be pretty disappointed with their coverage, even without the Chief.

  37. Hinch Says:

    I hate that camera angle…

  38. Gary Says:

    The Sens have a pressure penalty kill. Like collapse on the puck. It’s frustrating as hell.

  39. John F. Says:

    They fixed the caption size on SUn Sports…

  40. Gary Says:

    (rolling eyes at this powerplay)

  41. Gary Says:

    BRAD RICHARDS!

    What a sweet pass to the wide-open guy.

  42. John F. Says:

    BOOOOOOOOOM!

  43. Hinch Says:

    Brad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Saw that comin’!!!!

  44. Gary Says:

    Five-holed Emery hardcore.

    That sounds kind of perverted.

  45. John F. Says:

    The Richmeister — Makin’ Copies :D

  46. John F. Says:

    Hinch, you could see that one coming a mile away. Great setup.

  47. Hinch Says:

    “Slammed it through his five-hole”? No, that isn’t it either…

  48. Hinch Says:

    Sarich is starting to really piss me off.

  49. Gary Says:

    Hinch: That’s even dirtier… although not completely inappropriate.

  50. John F. Says:

    he went five hole big time…

    …no

  51. Gary Says:

    Speaking of Dingman (weren’t we?) Is he scratched tonight? What’s up w/ Robby DiMaio?

  52. Hinch Says:

    Dinger = healthy scratch, I think. Haven’t seen DiMaio in weeks.

  53. Gary Says:

    Poobina gets a high-stick penalty. Sorry Marsha.

  54. Gary Says:

    Wow, Johnny Grahame’s arm just grew two feet for him to glove that skyscraper shot.

  55. John F. Says:

    I expected Robby by now in the starting lineup.

  56. Hinch Says:

    Marty gets and extra shot it. Good.

  57. John F. Says:

    End of one and we’re on a bigger pace than ever before on the comments…

  58. Gary Says:

    Just noticed that Ranger has assists on both goals so far tonight. Damn that kid is impressive. Yes, I voted for him as the Bolts’ rookie of the year.

    John, what were those final results? Is there a link to view past polls?

  59. John F. Says:

    You realize Marty has a Darcy-Tucker-like reputation with some of the Ottawa faithful? Look at the comments on the “Despicable” thread and you’ll see a comment accusing Marty of diving once a period.

    I can understand people calling him for slashing and hooking — cuz they were catching him a ton during the early part of the season, and it was a habit of his in 2003-04… But flat out diving?

  60. John F. Says:

    Gary RE: The polls… I ought to call it up while we’re the ones on the site the majority of the time. Unfortunately there is no plugin to view past polls. I gotta talk with the plugin creator about adding that features.

    I think Paulie won it with Craig and Arty following.

  61. Gary Says:

    They’re horribly mistaken.

    They’re thinking Sidney Crosby.

  62. John F. Says:

    just put the poll back up for a quick look-see. Yes, Ranger won it.

  63. Gary Says:

    JF: And I’d say he won it handily.

  64. John F. Says:

    # Paul Ranger: 40% (26)
    # Evgeny Artyuhkin: 26% (17)
    # Ryan Craig: 34% (22)

  65. Hinch Says:

    I voted for Artoo, but I’m glad Ranger won the poll. He means more to the team, and is getting better all the time. Artyukhin is exciting, but his real contributions are much smaller.

  66. Gary Says:

    Aside: I think it’s quite appropriate that the dude who’s the Keeper of the Cup is named Mike Bolt.

    He’s a Lightning fan, damnit… even if he doesn’t know it.

  67. John F. Says:

    Ranger deserved the vote — cuz on the blue line you can be overlooked for the flash of the forward position.

    Craig was what many fans on the Sun Sports message board thought was the winner… Many, however, gave Artoo their runner-up pick.

  68. Hinch Says:

    Look! My smoking buddies!

  69. John F. Says:

    Gary, I’ve been thinking that for a long long time. AN Omen.

    It was sorta like the omen that there were wide spread thunderstorms the day of Game 7… With plenty of Lightning.

  70. Hinch Says:

    OK, kill this off…

  71. John F. Says:

    Ask and you shall receive, hinch

  72. Gary Says:

    OK, give me a Ferrari.

    (waiting patiently)

  73. Hinch Says:

    Ranger is everywhere. Torts was quoted today as saying something like “If Ranger is our best guy, then we have to work on some things…” I’m not so sure about that.

  74. Gary Says:

    Nice work by Affy - to no avail.

  75. John F. Says:

    no luck for affy today.

    Also no luck for you Gary. I’m all out of Ferrari’s

  76. Gary Says:

    Grahame gives up too many marathon rebounds. It’s scary as a mofo.

  77. Hinch Says:

    Dang. Some great chances there. But please don’t overuse the between the skates pass, fellers.

  78. Gary Says:

    That (theo?) flurry of shots on Emery was nice. Need more of that.

    FUCK THEY SCORED.

  79. John F. Says:

    Shit

  80. Hinch Says:

    Look, I know it was a hard shot. But Grahme wasn’t screened, and he was alost back up against the crossbar. Not good.

  81. John F. Says:

    Did they say Ottawa was thanking Artoo for the goal?

  82. Hinch Says:

    Hell, it didn’t even look that hard. Shit.

  83. Gary Says:

    They’re missing all the open net shots. But, at least they’re getting shots on net.

  84. John F. Says:

    Arty, Freddie and Brad on the line together during that shift

  85. Cam Says:

    Back from kid’s soccer game, where I squirted water at our coach from Ottawa when he dissed my boys (in good fun, of course :)). Got a buddy to update period 1 scores on his PDA. Had on Bolts cap & Bolts Run t-shirt–still do. Getting necklace. Damn these Sens are skating fast tonite. Sun Sports having trouble with their feed–lotsa broken up images. Gonna open a beer now. Hate to say it, but Kubina needs to get control of his emotions.

  86. John F. Says:

    When Rick and the chief sing the praises of Don Cherry, something is inheritly wrong.

    Even if Don had praise for Vinny and harsh words for Chris Neil — the guy still gets high marks in the senile category.

  87. Marsha Says:

    Oops, that last post was from me, Marsha, not my game buddy, Cam.

  88. John F. Says:

    I knew it was you — was wondering when you officially changed your name ;)

  89. Gary Says:

    Don Cherry is a joke. Simple as that.

    Hey Marsha.

  90. Gary Says:

    It’s like watching a circus on ice. Except I’d rather them be doing different tricks. PK for the bolts. This could mess shit up.

  91. Marsha Says:

    Dammit, Artoo in the box

  92. Hinch Says:

    Artyukhin gets a penalty for being Artyukhin.

  93. John F. Says:

    Things are deteriorating out there. That was an overdue call/

  94. Gary Says:

    I don’t like that the fans at the Ice Palace are booing Wade Redden. Dude has to go to his mother’s funeral tomorrow. Cut him some slack.

  95. John F. Says:

    Redden has been a force on ice and it’s classless to boo

  96. Gary Says:

    Good kill.

  97. Hinch Says:

    VINNIE!!! Just shoot the damn puck!

  98. Gary Says:

    Sens PP. Ranger with a *crushing* hit right before the call.

  99. Marsha Says:

    Aargh, I lova ya Vinny, but for once could ya just drive to net on those breakaways instead of showing off your fancy passing? Pretend it’s a SO for cryin’out loud. Are you guys getting dizzy from the bad feed? The screen keeps blacking out, pix breaking up, and at one point it looked like a video game.

  100. John F. Says:

    See, on Tuesday — they wouldn’t have called shit during a mess like that. Something was wrong and they just let them go because no one was bloody or dying on ice.

    Yes, having a Sens powerplay is not the best of things for the Lightning… but at least the refs are maintaining some order… Maybe not enough (see deteriorating conditions comments) but at least trying.

  101. John F. Says:

    Marsha, no picture problems in Tampa. Might be your cable company

  102. John F. Says:

    Ottawa goal
    3-2

  103. Gary Says:

    Saw that shit before it happened. Good passing, wide-open net. Grahame could have (should have) had that with a glove save.

    This is not good.

  104. Gary Says:

    fuck fuck fuck fuck

    One for each of their goals.

  105. Hinch Says:

    That looked easy. Espo was complaining before the score that the defense backed way up from the blue line into the defensive zone and let the Sens in for an easy goal.

    And they score again.

  106. Gary Says:

    Yank Grahame or not?

  107. John F. Says:

    keep him and give the defense a tongue lashing.

    This is twice.

  108. Gary Says:

    Bolts powerplay. They gotta do something with it. In the third, I mean. This period’s a done deal.

  109. Hinch Says:

    Puck control. Learn it. Use it.

  110. Gary Says:

    2nd Intermission Beer Run.

    It’s almost an institution here in suburban D.C. :)

  111. John F. Says:

    gotta take the dog out quick. BRB

  112. Hinch Says:

    My impulse would be to leave JG in, but I say if Burke is in goal, the score is 3-2. At least. Yes, the defense has collapsed back into the zone, played soft, and allowed the Sens to get close, but one of those scores was from 20 feet away, unscreened.

    Now’s not a good time for pride, or egos.

  113. Marsha Says:

    Well, the puck drop’s coming up and it’s now or never for our boys. Here’s a virtual toast to them turning off the fear factor and thinking like they’re on offense instead of PK.

  114. Gary Says:

    Danny Boy was just interviewed on OLN - said “it just pisses me off when a guy takes a dive”. I thought this was a family broadcast? ;) Good work, Danny.

  115. John F. Says:

    I’m back.

    It is now or never

  116. Gary Says:

    Hinch: I’m leaning toward putting Burke in, too… but really he’s not that much of an assurance. Having him in there may prompt the D to start playing better, but fact is that the D has to play strong *every game* in front of both guys. Neither of them is Khabibulin.

    Two goals down, three in a row from Ottawa. Safe really is death tonight.

  117. John F. Says:

    Burke takes over in net

  118. Gary Says:

    Burke’s in.

    Should I be worried?

  119. John F. Says:

    Richards screwed that up with his clearing. The blind clearing and who capitalizes but the Human Clit

  120. Gary Says:

    I’m more worried about the sorry state of our crappy-ass power play.

    FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

    Fucking Chris Neil. I completely lost that puck, just like Burke.

  121. Gary Says:

    Am I the only one that’s completely demoralized by this shit tonight?

  122. John F. Says:

    I’m demoralized but not in the same way I was Tuesday night after that bullshit by Kerry Fraser and crew.

  123. Hinch Says:

    Suddenly the Sens are one step faster, and better positioned, every second of every play. And the Lightning are missing passes by four inches.

  124. Hinch Says:

    Another scintillating power play by the Lightning comin’ up.

  125. Marsha Says:

    Almost spit out my beer when C. Neil scored.

  126. Hinch Says:

    Espo just complained the Bolts aren’t skating hard. They need…something positive to happen.

  127. Gary Says:

    Marsha: Never spit out the beer! Swallow quickly then curse like a sailor. Please don’t take that out of context.

  128. Gary Says:

    Are they worried about missing their tee times on Sunday?

  129. Marsha Says:

    My Gary, from five-holers to swallowing . . . Anyways, I am getting tense here–the Sens are skating as fast as the Sharks this week, and that’s not good. We are looking s l o w. At least Vinny took some Sens equipment off with that last hig.

  130. John F. Says:

    That may be it.

    I think they’re just really winded from what they’ve done this season. How many of them went to Torino? How many of them were in crap condtion as was coming back from the lockout?

    This is just showing how much of a hole we have on defense. It’s showing that an additional spark is missing on offense (the gun-for-hire corey stillman was that spark in 03-04)….

  131. Marsha Says:

    Well it’s do or die now. Hope we go for it this time. Would like to see Vinny get further than between Emery’s legs this time . . . Oh, Gary, forgot to smile on my last post. :)

  132. Gary Says:

    Marsha: Heh… I wasn’t alone on that five-hole action. :) Eww, I may have made it worse?

    John: That’s something I’ve been worried about all season. There was no news this year about Tortorella’s super-intense conditioning program as there was last season (two years ago, but last season nonetheless). And you’re right, although playing in the Olympics is an honor for the players… it’s definitely detrimental to their “day jobs” in the NHL. Hasek is the poster boy for that shit.

    Bolts have no heart–collectively–in this series.

  133. John F. Says:

    They’ve lacked heart since the end of the Olympic break. It’s been on and off hockey.

  134. Marsha Says:

    Affy looking tough behind the net. Wish Artoo had that last shot go in.

  135. Gary Says:

    See? Now Ranger did all the work on that last shift.

    Where are the Stanley Cup Champions? They’re waiting for the fruits of his labor.

    It’s just not enough.

  136. Hinch Says:

    Another whiffed shot. I know nothing about this, but could that be due to the graphite sticks? I know they break if you look at ‘em funny.

  137. Gary Says:

    IMHO, it’s a bad thing to have Lecavalier playing D because Poobina is pinching in the zone when he shouldn’t be. Does Torts realize this is a bad thing?

  138. Marsha Says:

    Torts has faulted Kubina for “caring too much” and stepping out of role this season. Methinks this season endeth soon for us. Will crack open another beer & cheer on. But may soon have to start cheering for the hardworking Sabres. Have a deal with all 2 of the other hockey fans at work that we’ll cheer on each other’s teams should ours fall out. But I’m not ready to roll over yet.

  139. Gary Says:

    Just looking at the faces on the bench… most of our guys have been shaving to some extent. No attempt at a playoff beard conveys no attempt at the playoffs… at least to me.

  140. John F. Says:

    I’m going to have to chill for a while. Will probably not pay attention to the playoffs once inevitable happens. I’ll likely focus on the off-ice moves.

    And if the Lightning re-signing Richards costs them any players services, it may very well be Pavel Kubina’s

  141. Gary Says:

    At this point, it doesn’t matter if Spezza got the goal (which he honestly did)… Poobina and Sydor got beat Tina Turner style.

  142. John F. Says:

    Gary, I think your Ranger comments coupled with the shaving comments says it all — the fire’s been doused and the hunger is just not there.

  143. Hinch Says:

    OK, I’m outta here. John, thanks for the great website and the open threads. Enjoyed ‘em lots. I’ll check back in every day, just like always.

    See ya, and just wait ’till next year!

  144. Gary Says:

    JF: I agree. If it costs Kubina (note the proper spelling) to keep Richards, it’s worth it.

  145. Gary Says:

    Hinch: Dude, there’s another game on Saturday.

  146. John F. Says:

    ore than a few fans have a perception this is it (like Hinch is presenting)

  147. Gary Says:

    At least we’re not Dallas.

  148. John F. Says:

    Amen, dude.

  149. Gary Says:

    John: Yeah, I realize that. Despite the gloom-and-doom attitude that pervades my comments (well-founded gloom-and-doom, I think)… it’s not over until the Sens win four games. It’s pretty unlikely that the Bolts can come back from tonight’s loss to win the series, I’m idiotically optimistic that they might–just might–win game five.

  150. Hinch Says:

    I hit the post button as it occured to me there’s another game. But John’s right…this game felt like an ending.

    I take it back anyway…I’ll be here for the next game.

  151. John F. Says:

    Glad to see the turn around Hinch

  152. Hinch Says:

    I have to be here. My blinking blue necklace still has power left.

  153. Marsha Says:

    Well, it is a sad thing when a rookie, Paul Ranger, is the guy who steps up his play and shows a fearless game in the playoffs. Too bad the former Cup-winning vets couldn’t keep pace with him. I hope we get some new defensemen to help Paul out next year. As for keeping Richards, heck, I’d trade anyone to keep him! No brainer. Ditto the thanks to you, John, for giving us this forum. The other Bolts fan sites I lurked on early in the season were inane chats about “who’s your fave player” & measuring “quality” by how many checks a player throws per game. You rock, and hoping for Sat success.

  154. John F. Says:

    LOL, that’s good a reason as any.

    Then again, you could ditch and go to Shots to watch this thing with other fans….

  155. Gary Says:

    Curse those dry cell batteries. :D

  156. Gary Says:

    Marsha: Damn skippy.

  157. John F. Says:

    Marsha, thanks… Thanks to you too Gary, and Hinch. You guys keep me going some days (and Alex, Gary. Just knowing you guys are reading).

  158. Gary Says:

    Alex is a loser. Where has he been this series? Sitting at home in front of the TV which is nowhere near his computer… that’s where. That guy sucks. ;)

  159. John F. Says:

    LoL

    But he DID tip you off to Boltsmag in 2004 right?

  160. Gary Says:

    Sorry about that. John said keep it civil. For other readers (John knows) : I have permission to give Alex some shit… he’s been giving me shit for 33 years. ;)

  161. Gary Says:

    John: DAMN YOU!

    Why do you have to bring out reality? I’m hoping he’ll read the posts and come back at me as an older brother should. But NO you’ve gotta’ hand him the trump card all graceful like.

    Yes, he did hook me up w/ the Boltsmag action back in the day. The only reason I’m here is because of Alex. You know that’s not his *real* name, right? Hehehehe.

  162. John F. Says:

    When I said keep it civil — it was more like instruction for Ottawa fans who dropped by — none posted on the game thread — to not come in here just to talk trash or anything. I don’t mind obscene jokes and everything like that, it’s dropping F-bombs aimed at other people who support other teams and that ilk.

  163. John F. Says:

    I know his real name is Alica and the entire “Brother” thing has been a farce from the start. ;)

  164. Gary Says:

    Oh, that’s better than anything I could come up with. I especially appreciate the gay lover implication you’re lodging against him (but not me, right?).

    John wins!

  165. John F. Says:

    Correct ;)

  166. Rohit Says:

    Tough game out there tonight - I have a headache after watching it. Gotta give the Sens a lot of credit, they just wanted it more and had an extra gear that kept the us in neutral. Game 5, hopefully the guys will play loose and maybe something special might happen, but i won’t get my hopes up too much. I did get some good news - 2 Full season Tix for 06-07 in Section 301 J - yeaa baby! I’ll be there all 41 nights!!! Anyone know who the goalies are gonna be on the free agent list this upcoming season? What about Defensemen? To beat the likes of Ottawa and other powerhouse teams we need 4 lines to produce, we barely have two this year.

    Let’s hope for good things in game 5!!!

    GO BOLTS